Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5.1 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Virtualization tab — plan (2026-10-09, not started)
A tab for creating, watching, consoling into and deleting LXC containers and KVM virtual
machines, the way Proxmox does with pct and qm — per machine, like every other page.
This is the scoping PLAN.md asked for. Nothing here is built. Live state of the hosts
stays in hamlet/docs/hosts.md.
Decision: Incus 6.0 LTS, on grid first
| Option | Verdict |
|---|---|
| Incus (LXD fork, linuxcontainers.org) | Chosen. One daemon, one CLI and one JSON API for both containers and VMs. In Debian 13 as incus 6.0.4 LTS — apt install incus pulls qemu-system-x86, swtpm, virtiofsd, incus-agent, so VMs work out of the box. Fedora 42 has 6.23 for the Mac mini if that is ever wanted. Native ZFS storage driver (instant snapshots and clones), built-in image server (images:debian/13, images:ubuntu/24.04, Alpine, Fedora, Arch… as container or VM), snapshot schedules with expiry, incus export backups, per-instance CPU/memory limits, cloud-init, text and VGA console over websocket. Everything is reachable as incus … --format json or incus query, which is exactly how Ham Lab already drives Docker: exec.Command, no new Go dependency. |
libvirt/KVM + virsh, plus LXC separately |
Two daemons, two models, XML. libvirt's official Go binding needs cgo, which the static binary rules out (the pure-Go go-libvirt exists but then containers are a second project). Rejected. |
| Proxmox itself | Means reinstalling grid's OS. No. |
Where it can run
Probed 2026-10-09 (/dev/kvm, cpu flags, kvm_intel/kvm modules, RAM, disk).
| Host | KVM | RAM | Verdict |
|---|---|---|---|
grid |
yes — i7-11700T, VT-x, kvm_intel loaded, nested on |
62 GiB; ZFS ARC is at 23 GiB and allowed 40 | The VM host. 790 GiB free on the NVMe root, 4.5 TiB free on tank. Cap the ARC at 16 GiB and ~30 GiB is free for guests with headroom for Immich and the encode jobs. |
core |
yes — N100, kvm_intel loaded |
7.5 GiB, ~4 GiB available | Small LXC containers only, never a VM. Second host, later. |
| Mac mini | yes — Asahi KVM, /dev/kvm present, 16K pages |
15 GiB, 8 GiB available | Technically workable (Fedora ships Incus 6.23 and qemu-system-aarch64; arm64 guests only, no x86 VMs; 4K-page guests on the 16K host are what muvm already does). Excluded by the rule: single-core-performance workloads only. |
hamtv |
yes | 3.7 GiB | In service for HamTV. Excluded. |
gate |
no /dev/kvm (OpenWrt) |
8 GiB | Excluded. The tab says "no virtualisation on this machine". |
Nothing is installed anywhere today: no qemu, libvirt, lxc or incus on any host.
What the tab does (v1)
Mirrors the Docker tab's shape: a list, a detail page, actions that are followed tasks, destructive ones confirmed by typing the name.
- Instances — containers and VMs in one list: state, IPv4, CPU and memory live, disk, snapshots count, uptime. Badge for type. Click for detail.
- Create — pick container or VM; image from the
images:remote (searchable, with the handful most people want pinned: Debian 13, Ubuntu 24.04, Alpine, Fedora); name, CPUs, memory, root disk size; network (NAT bridge, or LAN oncebr0exists — below); optional cloud-init user-data (SSH key, packages, a first command); profile. Create, or create and start. Collisions (name taken) named before Create. - Lifecycle — start, stop, restart, force stop, rename, delete (type the name; the instance's snapshots go with it, and the dialog says so).
- Console — two buttons, both open as tabs in the Terminal page through the existing
PTY manager (
term.CreateCmd, thedocker execpath): Console (incus console, the serial console — works before the network is up, shows boot output) and Shell (incus exec <n> -- login shell). Works for containers and, viaincus-agent, VMs. - Snapshots — take, restore (confirmed), delete; a schedule per instance with an
expiry, which is Incus's own
snapshots.schedule/snapshots.expiry, so no cron file of ours this time. - Resources — edit CPU and memory limits (live for containers; VMs take CPU hotplug and
memory balloon live with the agent, else on restart), grow the root disk, add a bind
mount (a
tankpath into a container; virtiofs into a VM). - Images — what is cached locally, delete, aliases; publish a stopped instance as an image (Proxmox's "convert to template").
- Storage and networks — the pools with their fill, the bridges with their subnets. Read-only in v1 beyond what Create needs.
- Not installed here — a host with KVM but no Incus gets an Install button that runs the whole phase-0 recipe below as a task (the smartmontools-install precedent). A host with no KVM gets one sentence.
- Sensors —
instance.<name>.cpu,.memory,.runningfrom Incus's state, like thecontainer.*sensors, so Alerts gets an "instance down" default and widgets can show one.
Not in v1, with reasons
| Thing | Why not yet |
|---|---|
| VGA console in the browser | Incus hands the VM's SPICE socket over a websocket; drawing it needs spice-html5 in the UI. Doable (the Incus UI does it), but text console + shell cover every Linux guest. Phase 3. |
| Windows VMs | Incus runs them (ISO repacked with virtio drivers by distrobuilder), but without a VGA console in the browser they are unusable from the tab. After the above. |
| GPU passthrough to a VM | Takes the Arc A380 from the host, and from Jellyfin. No. Sharing the GPU into a container (gpu device) is fine and is how r720-jellyfin used to run. Phase 3. |
| Clustering / live migration | One real host; the others are different sizes and one is arm64; no shared storage. Not planned. |
| A fleet-wide instance list | One machine per view. The switcher is the machine. |
Mac mini, hamtv, gate |
Above. |
Decisions baked in (say if any is wrong)
- Storage: instances on
grid's NVMe, data ontank. A ZFS pool for Incus made as a 300 GiB loop file on the NVMe root (incus storage create default zfs size=300GiB) — fast enough for VM root disks where raidz2 spinners are not, and still ZFS so snapshots and clones are instant. Big data is bind-mounted in fromtank, the same split Docker already has (apps oncore, data ongrid). A second pool ontank/incuscan be added later for a guest that genuinely wants terabytes. Consequence:grid's root NVMe is not backed up anywhere (backups land ongrid), so instances need the nightly export below. - Network: NAT bridge first, pinned to
192.168.200.1/24. Incus's default picks a random10.x.y.0/24, and the LAN here is10.0.0.0/8— every host has a /8 on its NIC, so any 10.x bridge collides.192.168.200.0/24is clear of Docker's pools on both hosts (172.28.0.0/14ongrid;172.19–172.29and192.168.80–143oncore). Instances getname.incusDNS from Incus's dnsmasq. LAN addresses in phase 2: abr0ongrid'senp10s0(the 10 GbE uplink) so an instance can take a lease fromgateand a Pi-hole name. That rewrites/etc/network/interfacesand dropsgridoff the network for seconds — its own step, with the NanoKVM standing by. macvlan was considered and rejected: no host network change, but host and guests cannot talk, so Immich/Jellyfin/backups ongridcould never reach an instance. - Docker and Incus on one host: Docker sets the
FORWARDpolicy toDROP, which silently kills the Incus bridge's traffic. Fix is twoDOCKER-USERaccept rules forincusbr0, persisted — part of the install recipe, ongridand latercore. - ARC cap on
grid:zfs_arc_maxfrom 40 GiB to 16 GiB so guest RAM is deterministic. - Privilege:
corejoinsincus-admin(socket access, thedocker-group shape) andhamlab.servicegetsSupplementaryGroups=incus-admin; no sudo in the hot path. - Backups: nightly
incus export --instance-onlyof every instance to/tank/backups/incus/with a retention, as a cron line like the ZFS schedules (hamlab incus-export), from phase 2. Plus the instance's own snapshot schedule.
The old Proxmox estate (restorable, phase 3)
/tank/backups/proxmox/ holds the retired r720 node: /etc/pve (12 LXC confs, 2 VM
confs), 118 GiB of vzdump archives, and three raw VM disks. Latest of each:
| ID | Name | Latest archive | Size |
|---|---|---|---|
| 100 | r720-docker | 2026-01-11 | 20.7 GB |
| 101 | r720-cockpit | 2026-01-11 | 439 MB |
| 102 | r720-wordpress-alexblaskovich | 2026-01-11 | 1.2 GB |
| 103 | r720-spoonterm | 2025-06-14 | 494 MB |
| 104 | r720-ollama | 2026-01-11 | 11.3 GB |
| 105 | r720-transmission | 2026-01-11 | 322 MB |
| 106 | r720-apache | 2026-01-11 | 347 MB |
| 107 | r720-nut | 2025-03-29 | 205 MB |
| 108 | r720-filebrowser | 2026-01-11 | 262 MB |
| 109 | r720-bookstack | 2025-04-27 | 516 MB |
| 110 | r720-jellyfin | 2026-01-11 | 2.2 GB |
| 111 | r720-wireguard | 2025-04-13 | 510 MB |
| 112 | r720-eggwiki | 2026-01-11 | 634 MB |
| VMs | steam (102), powerpanel (105/107/112) | .vma.zst 2024–2025; raw disks vm-105, vm-112, base-104 |
19 GB, 1.9 GB ×6, 97 GiB |
- LXC: feasible and scriptable. Unpack the rootfs (
tar --zstd -xpf … --numeric-owner), readetc/vzdump/pct.conffor arch/ostype, drop it, writemetadata.yaml, pack,incus image import, launch. Unprivileged uid shifting is Incus's job after that. A wizard in the tab is plausible once the script works by hand. - VMs: the raw disks import directly (
incus-migrate, or an empty VM with the disk imported into its root volume). The.vma.zstarchives need Proxmox'svmaextractor (or the Python port) to become raw disks first. Most of these are the samepowerpanelbox backed up six times, andtank-space-audit.mdalready has them down for deletion — decide which, if any, are wanted before anything is restored.
Build plan
| Phase | What | Effort |
|---|---|---|
0 — host prep on grid (by hand, documented) |
apt install incus; incus admin init --preseed with the pool and bridge above; DOCKER-USER rules; ARC cap; incus-admin group + unit edit; launch one Debian 13 container and one Debian 13 VM; verify console, shell, network, snapshot, export. Write it up in hamlet/docs/hosts.md and the preseed into hamlet/scripts/. |
1 session |
| 1 — the tab | internal/incus (CLI wrapper, JSON types, incus monitor for live state), internal/api/virt.go (routes below), Virtualization.tsx (list, detail, create dialog, snapshot panel), rail entry virt, terminal integration, Install button, the no-KVM state. |
2 sessions |
| 2 — operations | Snapshot schedules UI, nightly exports with retention, limits editor, bind mounts, br0 on grid and the LAN network option, instance sensors + alert default, cloud-init presets. |
1–2 sessions |
| 3 — the rest | Proxmox import wizard, publish-as-image, GPU device for containers, VGA console (spice-html5), core as a second (containers-only) host. |
as wanted |
API sketch
GET /api/virt {installed, kvm, pools[], networks[], instances[]}
POST /api/virt/install task: the phase-0 recipe
GET /api/virt/images?remote=images&q= local cache + remote search
DELETE /api/virt/images/{fingerprint}
POST /api/virt/instances {name, type, image, cpu, memory, disk, network, cloudinit, profile, start} task
GET /api/virt/instances/{name} config, state, devices, snapshots
PATCH /api/virt/instances/{name} limits, description, devices
POST /api/virt/instances/{name}/{start|stop|restart|kill|delete|rename|publish|export}
POST /api/virt/instances/{name}/console → terminal {id} (incus console)
POST /api/virt/instances/{name}/exec → terminal {id} (incus exec -- sh -lc …)
POST /api/virt/instances/{name}/snapshots {name}; POST …/{snap}/restore; DELETE …/{snap}
PUT /api/virt/instances/{name}/schedule {cron, expiry}
POST /api/virt/import {path} task (export tarball, or phase-3 Proxmox archive)
Everything is per machine and reaches a node through the existing /api/nodes/{name}/…
proxy with no hub-side code; consoles attach over the existing /api/terminals/{id}/attach.
Tasks stream through /api/tasks/{id}/stream as Docker's do.
Sources
- Incus on Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/Incus
- Incus and Docker on one host (the
FORWARDdrop): https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/docs/main/howto/network_bridge_firewalld/ - Bridge options and
ipv4.address: auto: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/docs/main/reference/network_bridge/ - Consoles (text and VGA): https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/docs/main/howto/instances_console/
- ZFS storage driver: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/docs/main/reference/storage_zfs/
- macvlan's host-isolation: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/docs/main/reference/network_macvlan/
- Image format for the Proxmox import: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/docs/main/reference/image_format/